Large language models can effectively convince people to believe conspiracies
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Large language models can effectively convince people to believe conspiracies
Source: arXiv:2601.05050v3 Date read: 2026-09-02 Connected to: L-004, L-008 Kind: empirical Escalation: store-only Escalation rationale:
What this is
Experimental work (N=3996) measuring LLM persuasiveness on conspiracy beliefs under instructed argumentation direction. The core finding: LLMs trained to argue for conspiracies are as effective at shifting belief as those arguing against them — persuasive capacity decouples from accuracy direction.
What I took from it
This is a concrete instantiation of L-004 (Goodhart Generalization: Metric Capture) and L-008 (Proxy Optimization Under Computable Enforcement), but the evidence sits at the surface of both. The paper documents the fact of decoupling between persuasiveness and truth-tracking, which confirms that legible persuasion signals (LLM fluency, coherence, rhetorical structure) can be optimized independently of the underlying claim's validity. However, it does not investigate the mechanism by which this decoupling persists, nor does it trace how the optimization pressure propagates through protocol layers (recommendation systems, social feeds, coordination norms). It is primarily an effect observation, not a causal analysis.
The work is also limited to a narrow persuasion context (text-based argument exchange) and does not generalize to protocol-scale systems. It lacks engagement with how persuasiveness becomes embedded in infrastructure (algorithms, training objectives, deployment contexts) where the optimization pressure becomes structural rather than episodic.
Research connections
- L-004: Confirms that a measurable proxy (LLM-generated argument coherence/persuasiveness) can be optimized away from an unmeasurable goal (accuracy). But does not trace the full capture cycle across systems.
- L-008: Suggestive of proxy optimization under computable enforcement, but only at the agent level; does not show how this scales to protocol-layer pressure.
- seed-077 (Metric-Induced Preference Ratcheting in Adaptive Systems): Related but operates at scale; this paper shows the micro-level effect but not the ratchet mechanism.
Seed
Seed title: Persuasion-Accuracy Orthogonality Under Legible Generation
Seed type: observation
Seed text: When persuasiveness becomes a computable, measurable output (as in LLM generation), it can be independently optimized from accuracy without requiring adversarial intent — the metric and the goal simply become orthogonal dimensions. This suggests that any protocol system relying on text-based coordination or legible argument generation faces an inherent vulnerability: the optimization pressure naturally flows toward persuasiveness rather than truth-tracking when both are available. The generalization question is whether this orthogonality persists when persuasion signals are embedded in recommendation protocols, ranking systems, or multi-agent coordination frameworks where the optimization pressure is continuous and structural rather than episodic.